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A Provocation…

Yesterday I stumbled upon a very aptly-titled blog post: A Provocation: Twelve Myths Too Many Christians Believe, Pt 1. It certainly lives up to it’s name.  The 1st six myths he discusses are:

  1. Christianity is not a religion.
  2. The Bible is the word of God.
  3. The Bible is true because it says it is.
  4. The only marriage espoused by scripture is between one man and one woman.
  5. Everything in the Bible must be literally true, or we should just throw it away.
  6. America is a Christian nation.

Just based on the 6 myth statements, I’m guessing that at least 1/2 of these causes an instant reaction to most of you—I know I reacted to a couple.  But then, I read the explanation, and found that these are all provocative in a good way. The author, David Schell, raises some very interesting points in defense of his list, and he caused me to think, which is what he undoubtedly set out to do.

What do you think?  Feel free to comment on any of these…

 

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The Whole Pastor / Apostolic Succession thing

I’m not really picking on Lutherans, although sometimes I might seem like it.  I pick on everyone, but I really want to like Lutherans, so it’s just natural that I pay attention to them more than, say, Baptists. (Read that any way you like.)

So, I was reading this Lutheran-ish blog where the subject of absolution was being discussed. Absolution is a churchy term for being absolutely forgiven, typically by a representative of the church on behalf of God.  In some traditions, you only get absolved by confessing your individual sins, and promising to do some work (“penance”) to prove you’re sorry. In the Lutheran tradition, which I really like, we corporately confess our sins at the beginning of the liturgy, and the pastor represents that God has forgiven us, which we all agree with. I like the old liturgy better than the new, but that’s what I grew up with.  This is the only problem I have with the Book of Common Prayer — the pronouncement of forgiveness isn’t up front. I like being able to worship after we’ve all agreed we’re forgiven.

So anyway, the post I was reading provides the Biblical basis for absolution by quoting John 20:20-23:

“Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I am sending you.” And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you withhold forgiveness from any, it is withheld.”

It’s a great verse, but certainly one that some have a problem with.

Apostolic Succession

My problem comes with the whole concept of Apostolic Succession. In the above verse, Jesus is talking specifically to the Ten disciples.  By this time, of course, Judas was long gone. But, if you read on, you see that Thomas was also absent.  Interesting.

The concept of Apostolic Succession held to by many is that since this authority was only given to the Ten, the authority had to be directly passed down from these Apostles to the next in line.  For a couple of the historic traditions, this authority only passes to their priests; all others are interlopers. For later traditions, it is their expression of their church denomination that has this authority, which can be granted to their pastors.

Now, in traditions with direct succession beliefs, they’ve got to deal with Thomas somehow. Did he get this authority even though he was absent?  I’ve never heard this discussed, but it’s an interesting question.  I’m assuming that this might not have been an issue at the time, at least not worth discussing. But, when you start creating rules, these details become important.

Receiving the Holy Spirit

One thing to keep in mind in the John passage is that this was prior to the Holy Spirit being poured out on all flesh, at Pentecost. So, the Apostles were given the Holy Spirit earlier as they were the caretakers of the Church between the time of Jesus’ ascension and Pentecost.

While the passage does not specifically tie the 2 concepts together, I believe that we have to assume a connection between receiving the Holy Spirit and the authority to forgive sins (or retain them).

The question is, or at least one question is, now that the Holy Spirit has been poured out over the whole church, does Apostolic succession and the power to forgive sins remain with the hierarchical priesthood/clergy?

The Office of the Ministry

The blog post I referenced earlier makes the case that what Jesus actually did in John 20 was create an “office of the ministry,” which now extends to officially sanctioned pastors (although these would be not recognized by some of the older church traditions).  Now, while this is a nice try, I think we run into a conflict with the concept of the Priesthood of all believers spoken of by Peter in 1 Peter chapter 2.  As the writer of Hebrews explains, we all can now approach the throne, there is no need for any other to mediate for us.

The Problem With Pastors

Another problem we run into with this line of thinking is that in reality, there is no Biblical support for priests or pastors. Elders, yes. Teachers, yes. Pastors, as in professional Christians whose job it is to pronounce forgiveness? Not that I can see.

At the same time, I have no problem attending a Lutheran or Anglican service, etc.  I believe that any Christian can do what a pastor does.  Pastors serve the church, and I respect that. However, if the key is the presence of the Holy Spirit, then perhaps true apostolic authority is passed on to the Church Universal.  Perhaps the “Office of the ministry” is church-wide.

I’m not being “evangelical”

While it sounds like I am championing bad evangelical ecclesiology, I’m really not.  I’ve written enough about my problems with the modern church that you can search through and find that if you’re interested.  I do believe in historic concepts like incarnational theology and the administration of sacraments, for starters.  But, another of my problems with the post-liturgical protestant church is that its existence is, I believe, inherently conflicted.  They deny many of the fundamentals of historic orthodoxy and orthopraxy, yet try to hang on to concepts like the authority of pastors.  But, don’t get me started down that road…

Conclusion?

I believe in absolution / forgiveness. In fact, we’re taught in the NT to forgive as being essential to our own forgiveness. I believe forgiving others is the most important thing we can do as Christians, and it’s so often ignored. Withholding forgiveness is a concept I don’t really understand, but I really don’t think that will ever become a problem for us. It seems we are kind of predisposed to “unforgive.”

But bottom line, I think any attempt to restrict “the office of the ministry” or Apostolic Authority to a certain class of Christians is not Scripturally justified.  If I’m wrong, I’d love to read a well-argued response.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Atonement Theories and the Big Picture

antennae 001This is not the first time I’ve discussed the atonement here, and it probably won’t be the last. It’s an issue that I think about from time to time, and while I have some opinions (some firmer than others), I am not ready to stake a theological claim at this point.

Today’s post is inspired by an article I read this week by Mark Galli in Christianity Today, entitled, aptly enough, The Problem with Christus Victor.  Christus Victor (literally, “Christ the Victor”), is a name given to the general theory that Jesus saved us primarily by defeating evil (similar to the ransom theory). By contrast, the Calvinist view of the atonement is known as penal substitution, in which Jesus had to die to satisfy God’s wrath.

Name-dropping Rob Bell

Galli begins, interestingly enough, by referencing Rob Bell’s Love Wins, in which he “advocates the use of a plurality of atonement theories.” He goes on to say, “In this, Mr. Bell is repeating decades-old arguments in our movement, arguments that seem to be winning the day.”  However, the focus of Galli’s article is not to discuss using multiple atonement theories, but to express concern that people are following cultural trends in abandoning penal substitution in favor of the nicer-sounding victor theory.

Galli does admit that “The Christus Victor model has much to commend it,” including the point that “This model also highlights big picture atonement: Christ’s death isn’t merely about me and my salvation. It’s about the redemption of the cosmos…”  He also admits that “‘neurotic substitutionary atonement’ needs to be abandoned.” However, Galli is quite concerned with the rising popularity of CV, because it’s popularity goes hand in hand with a lessening emphasis on the substitutionary aspect. After a short discussion of some of the atonement-related verses, he asks, “…one begins to wonder how much stock we should put in Christus Victor. In short, should we be so quick to marginalize substitutionary atonement?”

While Galli does point out that the Ransom or CV approach to the atonement appears to be the position of the early church (and as such, the current position of the Eastern Orthodox churches) and that substitution (along with its view of man’s total depravity) originated much later,  he seems to assume that this more western view of mankind and the nature of sin is accurate, and therefore we need to hang on to the substitution theory.

What about the Gospels?

Galli fails to deal with what is, in my opinion, the most compelling argument for the CV theory, and that is the teaching of Jesus himself. Reading through the Gospels, it is nearly impossible to miss the constant parallel between sin and sickness (Matt 5:9, for example). We also see that Jesus never condemned those who were “captives” of sin; he only chastised those who used the law or their own self-righteousness to judge others.  He proclaimed himself the “physician” who is needed by those who are “sick” with sin.

If we merely look at Jesus’ interactions with people, it would seem that Christus Victor is indeed the victor in the atonement theory wars. I completely reject Galli’s statement that CV is in any way “clearly a secondary atonement theme in the New Testament.”

But what about Paul and Hebrews?

Reading through Paul’s letters, we see that he was quite good at using analogies to explain his points (which relates to the opening cartoon… “all I know is it gives a better picture.”).  And, he didn’t always use the same analogies. For example, he says in one place that the law no longer applies to us, as we have in effect died. In another place, he says that the law was nailed to the cross. In other place, he says merely that the law is no longer needed, now that we’ve no need for a tutor. I don’t believe that any of Paul’s analogies were necessarily designed to be the only way to look at something, or that they were necessarily perfect analogies. Like Snoopy’s ears, they help to give a better picture of a reality that we may at the present only “see in a glass darkly.”

And, as Galli mentioned, Paul also references the big picture, that the atonement is not, first of all, a primarily personal thing. The plan, in fact, is to redeem all of creation (universalism alert!).

Seeing the atonement “big picture”

My approach to understanding Scripture is to try to grasp the big picture, then start putting the pieces together as you would a jigsaw puzzle. Put the pieces that fit nicely together first, and leave the odd pieces alone until you see how they fit. Sometimes you find a piece that puts other pieces in their right context, and so on.

To me, there are too many problems putting too much emphasis on any one phrase or analogy. Those theories which rely on outside influences (like Platonic dualism, for instance)  or are more recent innovations are immediately suspect, not that they may not all have an element of truth.

While I reject, at this point, the Calvinist view of mankind and sin, Paul’s comments about substitution, ransom, etc. help to paint a whole picture that I don’t think any of us can see at the moment. However, to go further than that, adding in concepts about total depravity, inherited guilt, God’s wrath, and so on, is at the least, not helpful.

When Jesus says, “The Kingdom is like…” we know that it is like that, but not totally like that.  It is difficult, at times, to simply take Paul at his word without trying to build a whole 3-D model from a 2-D sketch, but I suspect that that’s often what we are expected to do, just like we do with Jesus’ Kingdom stories.  And, with the atonement, even with the helpful analogies, it may simply be enough to know that for God so loved the world, he gave his only son…

So… thoughts?  Where do you come down on the whole atonement discussion?

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